{"id":11727,"date":"2013-10-02T14:59:38","date_gmt":"2013-10-02T13:59:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.roger-pearse.com\/weblog\/?p=11727"},"modified":"2013-10-02T14:59:38","modified_gmt":"2013-10-02T13:59:38","slug":"getting-started-with-the-fathers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roger-pearse.com\/weblog\/2013\/10\/02\/getting-started-with-the-fathers\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting started with the Fathers"},"content":{"rendered":"

Via Twitter I learn of this post at Triablogue<\/a>, answering the question:<\/p>\n

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Jason, where would you recommend someone start with the church fathers, both in terms of primary and secondary reading? It seems such a dauntingly large field to a non-specialist…<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The answer is worth reading, but inevitably I disagree profoundly!<\/p>\n

If you are interested in history, and have some idea about Greeks and Romans, then I think that I would recommend the following.<\/p>\n

First, read the Didache<\/em>, or “Teaching of the Twelve Apostles”.\u00a0 It’s a first century work (one of the few not in the New Testament),\u00a0which combines a Jewish moral manual\u00a0(boring) with some practical instructions on how congregations should treat\u00a0apostles and prophets<\/strong>! (very interesting).\u00a0 I would suggest getting a modern translation; but a Google search will bring up others.\u00a0 This is the only ancient text outside the New Testament to mention them.\u00a0 It’s short.<\/p>\n

Secondly, go and look at this page<\/a>.\u00a0 It’s the table of contents (sort of) for a massive collection of old translations of the Fathers, in chronological order.\u00a0 It will give you a\u00a0 bunch of names, and centuries, at a very high level.\u00a0 You can click through and get the very olde-worlde translations too; but the main reason to look at this is just to get a high-level view of who wrote when.<\/p>\n

Thirdly\u00a0… get hold of a modern translation of Eusebius of Caesarea’s Church History<\/em>.\u00a0 There is a Penguin edition, translation by G.A. Williamson<\/a>, which is excellent (the older version with Williamson’s own notes is better than the one with Louth’s, in my opinion).\u00a0 This was written around 325 AD.\u00a0 It’s in 10 books (some 480 pages of English – sorry!), and it contains any amount of very early sources in quotation, which aren’t preserved otherwise.\u00a0 This gives you a strong, primary source account of how the church rose and progressed, right down to the legalisation of the church in 313 and the first ecumenical council (of Nicaea) in 325 AD.\u00a0 It will also tell you how the early church thought about the New Testament.<\/p>\n

After that … I would suggest looking into the earliest literature, known as the “apostolic fathers”.\u00a0 It’s all boring, but on the other hand it isn’t very extensive.\u00a0 You should certainly read “1 Clement” (written ca. AD 90, and a bit of a follow-up to 1 and 2 Corinthians in the NT).\u00a0 The martyrdom of Polycarp (you read about him in Eusebius) is good.\u00a0 The letters of Ignatius are worth a look also.<\/p>\n

But from here you can find your own way in the sources.\u00a0 Generally you find that the Fathers have “lovely moments, and dreadful quarters of an hour”, as was said of Wagner.\u00a0 You have to learn to skim-read.<\/p>\n

Now, secondary sources.\u00a0 What you need here, obviously, is an overview of what exists.\u00a0 For this there is no better source than J. Quasten, Patrology<\/em>.\u00a0 It’s in 4 volumes; the first two of reasonable size, the last two both immense.\u00a0 But it really does list all the works by all the writers.\u00a0 And it gives them in chronological order — so you can read it from cover to cover –, it discusses what they thought, quotes some “good bits”, and it has a very useful reading list at the end of each small chunk, including where to find the texts, translations, and studies.\u00a0 The only drawback is that vols. 1-3 are now 50 years old (vol. 4 is 20 years old), and so don’t include more recent stuff.\u00a0 The main omission is the Nag Hammadi library, which only got into the hands of the public in the 1960’s.<\/p>\n

This may be overkill; but I’m rather fond of such volumes.\u00a0 Just skimming, you get a very, very good idea of everything that exists.<\/p>\n

I have no suggestions for more recent studies, since I specialise in primary sources.\u00a0 I would caution you against modern American scholarship, which pretends that all the heresies were Christians, and then sneers that early “Christianity” believed all sorts of unbiblical things.\u00a0 The Fathers think different; as you will see.<\/p>\n

Let me recommend\u00a0a couple of\u00a0personal favourites.<\/p>\n

S.L. Greenslade’s translation of Tertullian, De praescriptione haereticorum<\/em> – on the Prescription of heretics.\u00a0 It can be found here.<\/a>\u00a0 It gives principles on arguing with heretics — liberals, in our day –, some pitfalls to avoid in using the bible in such arguments, and ends with a skit on the frequency with which heretics change their minds.\u00a0 Chapters 1-8 and the last couple are the really good bits.<\/p>\n

Origen’s Contra Celsum<\/em> is very long, but certainly the opening chapters are worth reading.\u00a0 Henry Chadwick’s translation is the one to use.<\/p>\n

The opening few chapters of Evans’ translation of Tertullian, Adversus Praxean<\/em>, here<\/a>, are well worth reading.<\/p>\n

Don’t work at it; just potter around, and look at stuff you find interesting!\u00a0 And … good luck!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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